B-School, Here I Come!
I just took the GMAT (Graduate Management Admission Test) today. Its an entrance test for admission to MBA programs at business schools. I’d been studying for it for the past month and it really paid off. I scored a whopping 740 which puts in the 97th percentile and incidentally also makes me directly eligible for membership into Mensa!
I was hoping to score a 700 which would make admission into the top MBA programs seem feasible. But with a great score like this, I’m hoping it’ll become a reality. But I’m already pretty late getting my application together for next fall. The early round’s and the first round’s are over and I have less than 4 weeks for the second round of applications. After that, its incredibly difficult to get in, so my best bet is applying in the 2nd round.
And this period unfortunately coincides with my vacation to Thailand and India (and possibly Zimbabwe) which starts next week. While in Thailand I’m hoping to look at some property. Southern Thailand is truly a paradise on Earth. You can buy houses there for $30,000, which sounds unreasonably cheap to me. And while in India, I’ll be attending a wedding and negotiating the sale of some property with a builder (which could get very ugly). Not exactly an environment conducive to writing B-school admission essays. Oh well, c’est la vie. Looks like its crunch-time again.
UPDATE: Since several people have asked me which books I used, here’s a list of Books To Help You Score a 700 On Your Gmat
And if any of you already have an MBA I’d love to hear your experiences and how its helped you.
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December 6th, 2007 at 1:04 am
Congratulations!
December 6th, 2007 at 6:10 am
Congrats on your GMAT score! That’s awesome! I’ll be studying for the GMAT’s in a couple of years myself. Hope I can do that well.
December 6th, 2007 at 7:30 am
Nice, congrats. I like the property talk…
December 6th, 2007 at 7:36 am
CONGRATS!!! am from India. city Hyderabad. Which part are u visiting? Enjoy ur vacation.
December 6th, 2007 at 8:31 am
Congrats on scoring a very high score, the next pain is paying for school.
I hope you score big on your properties
December 6th, 2007 at 9:38 am
I’ll worry about paying for school when I get admitted.
And after carrying so many mortgages, I’m de-sensitized by large loan amounts. I’ll just pretend I bought a house in the mid-west (a house that doesn’t provide any rental income).
December 6th, 2007 at 9:43 am
& anyone can get a good score. I spent the past month and solved 3 of Kaplan’s and 1 barron’s GMAT-prep books. if you can studying 4-5 hours a day for several weeks, you can definitely get a good score.
And drink some coffee and lots of gatorade before the exam!
December 6th, 2007 at 10:39 am
Congratulations! Nice blog and very useful! I am Robert Kiyosaki fan to!
December 6th, 2007 at 10:40 am
Sweet! I always knew you were one smart mo fo!
Now you can enjoy Thailand worry free.
December 6th, 2007 at 12:43 pm
Congrats on your GMAT score! I plan to give the GMAT soon as well. Did you mean you solved 3 different GMAT books from Kaplan and 1 another book from Barrons? I thought Kaplan makes only 1 GMAT book. Please clarify. It will help me prepare for my GMAT exam. Also any other pointers on how to study for the GMAT are appreciated.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:36 pm
Wow - well done - that is an amazing score. As someone who has taken the gmat I know how much work it takes to get ready for it. I got my MBA about 7 years ago and it was the best thing I did for my career. The gmat is the easy part - making it through 2 years of studying is the hard part.
December 6th, 2007 at 1:47 pm
Here’s a list of Books To Help You Score a 700 On Your Gmat
December 6th, 2007 at 3:25 pm
I got an MBA from Stanford almost 10 years ago now (time flies). The degree opens many doors and I can safely say that all of the professional opportunities as well as investment and even many of the dating opportunities that have come my way since attending have been directly or indirectly tied back to the institution. I can whole-heartedly recommend business school. My only caveat is that in my opinion it’s top 20 or bust. If you can’t get into a top 20 school (with your GMAT’s that shouldn’t be a problem), then you’re better off going somewhere local in the evenings or something like that. It’s too expensive in terms of opportunity cost of time, lost wages, and tuition and fees to justify going to a 3rd tier program. Sorry to sound elitist, but I stand by that position every day of the week.
Good luck!
December 6th, 2007 at 3:30 pm
Thanks for your feedback. My wife totally agrees with you. She said if I can’t at least get into USC (ranked 21 this time) I don’t deserve to get an MBA!!!
December 6th, 2007 at 4:10 pm
Congratulations on the GMAT, great score. What prep course and/or materials did you use? What was your strategy….study regimen?
December 6th, 2007 at 4:24 pm
Hi Mikal,
I just solved a couple of books. Refer the link at the end of the post - that has all four of them.
I spent about 3-4 hours/day studying for around 3 weeks. Last week I spent around 8/hrs and the last two days was round the clock - mostly giving tests and seeing where I feel short.
I think the key was realizing that its better not to rush through the test. I spent several minutes on the first 2-3 questions making sure I got them correct. There was one question I spent 2 minutes on and I knew I didn’t have a clue so I randomly picked the middle score and went forward knowing that a few wrong questions don’t hurt your score.
If you practice the math enough you’ll realize there are a few short-cuts.
I had issues with critical reasoning and I practiced that and sentence correction in the verbal section. But I focused mainly on the math. I scored only 81% in math but 99% in verbal with an overall score of 97% so I guess most people score poor on verbal. You need to decide what your weakness is an attack that.
good luck.
December 6th, 2007 at 5:01 pm
Congrats!
Can you explain a bit on what exactly are you trying to accomplish by getting an MBA? Do you really need an MBA to Live Off Dividends?
To me the only valid reason is get an MBA is to get a super-high paying job at a top tier company - but doesn’t that put you back into the rat race? It might be a high paying rat race, but rat race nevertheless.
Would love to hear your thoughts,
Good luck
December 6th, 2007 at 5:03 pm
Thanks and congrats again!
December 6th, 2007 at 9:45 pm
Pavel,
Good point. Getting into the rat race is not what I’m looking for.
However, it a little tough to live off dividends if you don’t have enough capital to live off of. And even if I did have enough money to live off for the rest of my life, I certainly can’t not work for the next 30-40 years. I have to do something, right?
Getting a finance degree seems like the best bang for the buck right now. I’ll hopefully end up doing what I enjoy doing and get paid to do it.
Having income coming in while you wait for your dream job puts you in a different position than if you had to take the first job you get just in order to pay the bills. Thats why you’d want a seperate income stream regardless of whether you have a job or not.
December 6th, 2007 at 11:30 pm
Thanks for the clarification, Nirav!
Your thoughts certainly make sense.
One advice I can give is: Make sure you have excellent recommendation letters from people that really know you and can point out all your strengths and some weaknesses.
A few of my friends went through the MBA admission process, and the difference between getting into a top tier school and not getting in appears to be in the quality of recommendation letters.
Some of my friends (who didn’t get into the top school) went for recommendation letters from individuals who had impressive titles (VPs, CTOs, etc), but who did not know them well enough, so their letters, while glowing were not personable enough and that made a difference.
A former co-worker or a lower level former boss who has really gotten to know you over the time might be a better choice.
Wish all the best luck!
December 7th, 2007 at 5:15 am
Congrats Nirav! I’m sure you’ll make it into USC.. and then maybe you can write me a recommendation letter..
December 10th, 2007 at 4:26 pm
I wholeheartedly agree with the Stanford guy. A top tier MBA opens up a world of opportunities for you. I got my MBA 4 years ago from Wharton and while it was expensive my first year after graduating I made about $250K and now I am making about $700k. A lot of my classmates are making much more. I’m in i-banking by the way. Besides the great job opportunities its the people you meet. You make a great network full of very successful people in very prominent positions all over the world. It works upstream as well, the top levels of the business world are mostly made up of people from a small community of schools. You carry it forever. The same goes if you want to start your own business. It won’t matter obviously if you plan to open a business installing air conditioners, but if you do something higher level, like start a hedge fund someday, or a tech company, private equity firm, etc. that network and the cachet of that top school’s name is a major help.
There is no doubt about it, a top tier MBA is worth way more than you pay for it. But if you can’t get into top tier I probably wouldn’t bother. I’d even say Top 10, not Top 20. But I may be biased because I work on Wall St. where most people went to a Top 5 (e.g. Harvard, Wharton, Columbia, Stanford, MIT are favorites).
December 10th, 2007 at 7:36 pm
Probably both ends of the quality/prestige spectrum provide value for money with the least value in the middle. But that’s probably true of most education in the US. In other words the top schools provide prestige/networking opportunities as well as access to experts and the bottom schools cover the topics, while it’s not clear what the value added of the middle ranked schools is or certainly whether it is worth the extra expense of the cheapest schools.
January 17th, 2008 at 10:08 am
First, a congratulations on the score and your accomplishment. It clearly is something that you are excited about. I would however, like to second Pavel’s comments. While no one will doubt the value of an investment into a top-tier MBA, Word Up seems to be missing the (original) point of this blog, namely a qualitative improvement in lifestyle. 50-60 hr work weeks and 2-3 weeks of vacation for 250K may be acceptable to most Americans (of which I am one), but that still classifies as the rat race, just as it does at 700K or higher, unless of course you love your job more than what you do with the other hours of your day.
My (unsolicited) advice here to you would be to do not give up the ideals that caused you to start this blog in the first place. Get your MBA and make a boat load of money for a few years and take no prisoners, do what you have to accumulate capital. But make a plan to get out of the race, using the strategies you’ve developed here. Even with 500-1000K of liquid assets, a passive income of 150-200K is relatively easy with a good head on your shoulders.
As it seems you haven’t quite been part of that race yet, the experience is certainly worth it, as will be the network of contacts you’ll make and the opportunities it will open. But make no mistake about it, people and institutions will quickly offer up gobs of money in exchange for major portions of your life. The Wall St folks have implicitly bought into this, it isn’t bad or good, it’s just a lifestyle choice. And once you’re in the paid more/buy more/paid more/buy more cycle, it’s very difficult to escape. And contrary to what you might hear, getting paid 500K for a job you loath can only last so long.
I wish you the best of luck, and regardless of the input, do not stop questioning your lifestyle:
- Is this how I want to spend my 30’s and 40’s
- Is my current lifestyle leaving me fulfilled, energized and empowered?
- Am I a better boyfriend/girlfriend/spouse/family member?
- Am I proud of what I am doing? (not what I am making)
Again, best of luck.
Phil
- About me: I’m a 36 yo supercomputing engineer/consultant. Since finishing my MS/CS in 98, I have run a small consulting business anchored by some minor positions at universities locally and abroad. I work about 30% of the year, spend 3-6 months traveling (I’m an avid explorer), educating myself further and working for non-profits. I always have time and money for things that are important to me. My annual after-tax income averages around 90K and I have an investment portfolio and properties (passive income!!) worth about 500K. I have lived in SFO, Stockholm, Delhi, Seattle, LA, Boston, Tennessee, Baltimore and Sri Lanka. (SFO is still my fave.)
January 17th, 2008 at 11:29 am
Hi Phil,
thanks for stopping by and offering your “unsolicited” advice.
an MBA is something I will regret not getting. while working 80 hrs a week (your 50-60 hrs estimate is probably on the low side) is not something I relish, I hope it will be something that I enjoy.
I spend ALL my free time reading investment/economy/finance stuff. I need to get this out of my system or I won’t be happy.
I have lived in Birmingham, London, Dorchester, Ahmedabad, Pune, Los Angeles and San Diego.
You seem to be living the ideal life. Congrats! I’m inspired!
January 30th, 2008 at 10:18 pm
Hi again, sorry for the delay. Being able to chase one’s dreams is a big part of fulfillment. If the dream is just of 400K, then the dream is empty. But your dream seems to be more than just that and that is excellent. As you said, you need to get this ‘out of your system’, which is another way of saying ‘I need to see if this is what will make me happy’. Most of us will be lucky to have such a strong message of a possible destiny. So for that, I say good luck and happy hunting.
My life is far from ideal. The fact is, that I still do something that I don’t enjoy for money. And even though it is a lot of money with tremendous freedom, at the end of the day, it is prostitution, there is no emotional or spiritual connection with the work. Those of different backgrounds and indeed, certain religions, might be quick to say, ‘well that’s why it’s called work’. That my friends, is the biggest cop-out of them all and truly is an injustice against the life we have been given. At 36, I am working hard to get back in to the many things I have enjoyed in the past, things I let go for various reasons, most of which were oriented about goals of ‘externally defined successes’. Making the change now is hard…it’s easier when your young. So, when you detect some passion for what your doing, be sure to chase it down and ‘get it into your system’, lest you become another high priced prostitute, trading hours, weeks, days and years of your life for someone elses dream or worse, endless accumulation of things to attempt to fill that gap inside. But we all know, money can’t make you happy, but it sure makes life easier! But as concerns for money abate, climbing to the top of that ‘actualization pyramid’ gets even harder.
All the best.
Phil
June 19th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Congrats on your GMAT score. I am 34 wanting to start a part time MBA. I know you are 33. Do you think it is too late for us?
All the best,
Rsc